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Monday, August 3, 2009

If You Don't Want to Teach Me, at Least Don't Mislead Me

Since I had originally trained in the Shotokan style, I decided to attend a seminar by Shotokan master Hirokazu Kanazawa. During the seminar, Kanazawa-sensei reviewed several kata; at one point during the discussion of a particular technique from the kata Jion, a black belt raised his hand and asked, “Sensei, could that move be a strike to the head?” At that moment I became somewhat hopeful. The question showed that this student was troubled by the woefully inadequate explanations for kata movements that he had been given over the years. It also showed that he was thinking and looking for knowledge. And, it was a pretty good question (as opposed to the usual, “What’s this move for?”). Perhaps he would be rewarded with a good answer.


“No,” Kanazawa answered. “It’s a block.” My heart sank as he then proceeded to demonstrate an obviously unrealistic and useless application of the movement. When he was finished, the questioner responded with a hearty and grateful, “Hai! Thank you, sensei.”


I shared this little episode via e-mail with a Shotokan practitioner in England. He responded by telling me that the only time he had seen Kanazawa demonstrate any “half decent” (his words) applications of kata movements was when he sneaked a peak during a private conversation Kanazawa-sensei was holding with Kato-sensei. This begs the question then, if the oriental instructors have better knowledge than they have shown us, why haven’t they shown it.


The area of pressure point knowledge is a good example of this very phenomenon. One of the truly great masters of the 20th century was Shogo Kuniba, the head of the Seishinkai karate organization. Kuniba-sensei loved to teach karate in the United States because his American students gave him permission to experiment and innovate (whereas, in Japan, he was expected to simply fulfill the role of soke/inheritor of his father’s karate style). As he was dying of cancer, Kuniba assigned the leadership of the karate organization in Japan to his sons, but he designated an American, sensei William Price, to inherit his own innovated karate system. According to Price, in the last few months of his life, Kuniba-sensei began to share information about pressure point techniques. Price says that Kuniba expressed regret that he had withheld the knowledge for so long, and that there was no longer enough time to fully divulge this aspect of karate to his heir.


Mike LaMonica is perhaps the western world’s most senior exponent of Hakko-ryu jujitsu, directly under the the system’s founder, the late Ryuho Okuyama, who awarded him the license of Menkyo-Kaiden. LaMonica-sensei and I only met in person once (at a baptism), but I did have occasion to talk with him on the phone. Our conversation was about the use of pressure points as part of the performance of Hakko-ryu kihon waza (the basic techniques of the system). As we talked pressure point specifics, LaMonica’s litany became, “Yes, but we don’t teach that until 5th dan.”


A similar comment is made by aikido exponent Morihiro Saito. Saito-sensei has stated (apparently quoting the teachings of aikido founder Ueshiba) that atemi, or the attacking of vital points, is essential for better than 90% of aikido technique to be successfully applied; yet, this portion of the art is not taught prior to 5th dan (achieved after about 20 years of training!) ostensibly so that students can concentrate on other aspects of the training. It seems odd that the very element that is required for the successful execution of aikido techniques is intentionally left out of student’s practice.


A friend provided me with a video taped seminar taught by Taika Oyata. Oyata-sensei was the first to demonstrate pressure point techniques in a public manner. He often demonstrated pressure point knock-outs and listed kyusho-jitsu (pressure point fighting) as a part of his curriculum. In the video, Oyata-sensei was teaching a small group of eager students (one of whom – I was surprised to see ­– was an old dojo-mate of mine from back in the 70’s). At one point, Oyata began to lecture on a knock-out technique. He slowly and deliberately demonstrated the technique so that everyone attending could follow. The students watched intently and imitated his movements (heck, I was imitating the movement as I watched the tape). Then suddenly, and without prior notice, Oyata knocked out the student he was using as uke.


The students in the seminar were all delighted to see this technique so convincingly proven. I, on the other hand, had a different reaction. Being a pressure point practitioner, I realized immediately that the technique Oyata-sensei had actually used to knock out the student was not the one he had been teaching. (And just to be sure, I backed up the video and watched it again in slow motion.) He had been pointedly misleading those students! (By the way, the technique is revealed at the end of the book TUITÉ: Advanced Pressure Point Grappling, which I co-authored with my teacher George Dillman.)


Pressure point expert George Dillman trained under Oyata-sensei in the early 80’s (and received 7th dan from Oyata). It was Oyata who taught him the fundamentals of kyusho-jitsu which formed the basis for Dillman’s own research and study. Clearly, Oyata-sensei had shared accurate information with Dillman, yet, Dillman himself says that he often saw Oyata teach wrong information in seminars.


Now, I must be careful here lest I seem to be criticizing Oyata-sensei. If it were not for his willingness to share knowledge about pressure point methods, this information would still be the subject of myth and fantasy. And, I don’t want to judge another person’s decision to withhold information from unproven students, since I myself have certain techniques that I simply will not teach anyone who is not at least a black belt and a person I have some measure of confidence and trust in. And there are also cultural realities. Instructors like Kanazawa-sensei, and Oyata-sensei probably feel that access to their knowledge must be earned through years of devoted, unquestioning, adherence. Ok, I get that, but there is a clear difference between withholding some information, and intentionally mis-teaching. It is not just that Kanazawa saves the decent application for private conversation, it is that he teaches bad application to the faithful, who accept it with a hearty thank you. It is not that Oyata holds back information, it is that he presents wrong information. I am not Japanese! So, understanding this from a cultural perspective doesn’t mean that it I am not offended to be treated this way. Withhold information, if you must, but at least don’t send me chasing my tail.


George Dillman is the exact opposite as an instructor. I have, many times, had him show me some secret technique, insisting I tell no one, only to have him tell me a few weeks later how he just taught that “secret” to 100 people at the latest seminar. I came to understand that he was not actually sharing secrets that I was to keep, he was giving me a head start on the the things he was working on and planning to introduce to others. And this is part of the reason why the DKI (Dillman Karate International) instructors are so knowledgeable and skilled. As one astonished newcomer said to me, “I figured Dillman could to do it; I never thought all his people could, too.” And this is why there are competing organizations out there, teaching and presenting pressure point knowledge (they learned it by being part of the DKI, where knowledge is freely shared).


It turns out that, when knowledge is held back, it is lost. Just as Kuniba-sensei was not able to pass on all he knew in the short time he had between his diagnosis and his passing, so knowledge has been lost across the ages. But, when knowledge is shared openly, then it not only endures, it prospers. Because Dillman would share everything he knew, his students were able to explore new areas of practice. They then shared that, and we all got better. I believe we actually understand pressure point fighting methods better now, than at any point in the last century. And this is not because we are great masters. We just are generous in our teaching and sharing. In this we are simply following George Dillman’s example (who, in fairness, was following Professor Wally Jay’s example), and the result is magnificent.


So, share what you learn, and we will all become better.


Thanks for reading. Now, go train.


Chris Thomas



6 comments:

  1. Dear GM Thomas,

    I could not agree with you more about Professor Dillman and DKI at large. The masters I have worked with at the Deer Lake camps and others have universally been kind, generous with their knowledge, and giving of their time and patience. I personally am taking the Kyusho information and working to apply it to the field of music. As a professional performer and teacher, I have been able to integrate more and more of the "intent" of the DKI teachings into my playing and the technique of my students with ASTOUNDING results. I am currently working on the elemental stances and how they effect musical performance and I am developing an elemental profile of the standard western instruments, ALL because of George Dillman and his students. When the student was ready, the teacher DID appear and I plan on staying with him and his organization for years to come. Thanks to you, GM Thomas, for your teachings and for taking the time to write about them!

    Sincerely, Patrick Smith, DKI-Connecticut

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  2. Great article. I smiled when you mentioned the video footage of Oyata shinshi and your former dojo mate (as well as the mention of Kuniba shinshi). I often think back to those years and how incredibly exciting it felt to find people who where exploring such closely parallel lines of research (and the quality of information that people were exchanging). Those years where certainly a "heyday" in my own training and I think they were also so to the Western karate world in general (to some extent at least). Oyata shisni's very recent passing has made me nostalgic for this time so many years ago and I am glad to have found this article.

    I want to thank you for all you've done and shared. The traditional martial arts world has undoubtedly been made better by your many contributions (IMHO anyhow).

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  3. Part !! Cont :
    the secondary innovations that were added to shotokan came from yoshitaka Gigo Funakoshi, not his father... in by Bruce D. Clayton PhD book Shotokan's Secret—Expanded Edition: The Hidden Truth Behind Karate's Fighting Origins he reveals comments by Funakoshi's contemporaries that state he was teaching something,to the Japanese but it was not karate . Gennosuke Higaki goes on to further prove what I have believed for many years , where he states that there was a secret agreement between the Okinawans to not give the Japanese the real Okinawan Karate techniques and secrets, this mindset is further proved in morihei Ueshiba's book where he states certain information was not to be taught to westerners or passed on to anyone under 4th Dan.. and just lie you I have been given BS answers or even mislead and taught a totally real life combat worthless system, with unusable techniques and principles that do not work in real street fight, where as San Soo and Shorin Ryu and Kali techniques did... the reason the kata information does not jive is noone has the original keys to the katas where they went from being Chinese Gung Fu forms to Karate Kata where all the tsubo or striking points were known and mapped out in the kata, which history also records that many of the original forms were altered to Okinawan Te which began the degradation and loss of information and true application.. bottom line Asian instructors admit that they believe westerners are to stupid to comprehend the complexities and understand Japanese Karate ref ( myths of Shotokan Karate) by Hikite by K. Yokota and lastly they themselves don't have a clue, they don't even know, . I have seen some Japanese Judans give interpretations of techniques supposedly hidden in kata, and could not believe my eyes at the shit they tried to pass off as hidden techniques, interpretations that had gaping holes in the kata and made absolutely no sense and was totally unrealistic..

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  4. Part III CONT:
    the bottom line here is shoto con is a faulty system that was reconstructed to look like real okinawan te or ti, but its fundamental building blocks or foundation was already faulty and incomplete before it was even taught to Funakoshi by Itosu. so how can you come up with a complete system of martial arts curriculum that never was correct, complete or whole from the beginning.. I will say it gave me great exercise and good foundation for my stances and punches, and should I ever have to fight an Air monster I am sure to win, since for 30 plus years I have beat and kick and punched the hell out of the air going up and down the dojo floor.. I am so pissed to have found out how much time was wasted on a dead end system, that had no pressure points methodology built into it.. funakoshi hints that we would have to discern(GUESS< SPECULATE FIND< SEARCH FOR) vulnerable from invulnerable targets , because they themselves did not have advanced knowledge of this aspect of Karate!!!!

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  5. part I

    I had the same situation and even recently had a falling out with my long time Sensei of more than 30 years over my comment to totally remove Shotokan or as I will from now on refer to it as Shoto-Con , because after 30 years of training and practice I found through research that Shoto con is not real okinawan karate or okinawa te, which funakoshi himself admits, and that it was not even what he himself was taught by Itosu, which brings me to the underlying problem that starts even before funakoshi, but with Anko Itosu himself. history record that he was a student of Sokon Bushi Matsumura, orthodox shorin ryu, but what is not commonly known is that history also records to Choki Motobu and others that he was disliked by Sokon Matsumura and neglected as a student, and consequently never taught the complete system of orthodox shorin ryu nor even basic kyusho, this also is reiterated with his second teacher whom he spent many years, only to be told as his them teacher informed him, that he never taught him Karate, only physical exercise disguised as karate, hence he was never taught a single advanced technique other than kihon, and it was recommended that he return to matsumura for advanced instruction. history go on to also record that when asked by his students Itosu could not even explain the most simple techniques in the majority of katas, stating he did not know the usage or meaning of alot of movements., this can be found also in Mark Bishops book Okinawan Karate where he records statement from his students (Itosu's and their later students.. this was further complicated by the fact that the Karate taught in the Okinawan School system is the basis and the foundation of modern Karate, which is designed specifically for elementary school children.... THATS RIGHT WE HAVE BEEN HAD>> SOLD A BILL OF GOODS AND FED A PILE OF BULLSH!T by Japanese Teachers feeding us shi!t covered with syrup and telling us it was pancakes(Karate)

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  6. Motobu was a derelict, uneducated street fighter. Seems like you must have failed a test or something to separate from your Sensei after 30 years with him over a simple disagreement. Besides, your history and sources are at best questionable. Also, this dumbass Mike likes to go on YouTube and cut down Christians and spew his lies and hate everywhere; doesn’t demonstrate any sort of martial restraint. I seriously question your skills and experience. Learn how to construct a proper sentence, paragraph and works cited and then you might get me to take you serious.

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